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Rule Change Requests for 2016
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Re: Rule Change Requests for 2016 8 years, 11 months ago #20151

  • RacerX
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Let me try from a different perspective. This will be my last post on this, I promise. I've been in this series since the 2011 season. I'm not a front runner but more of a back to mid-pack runner. I don't consider myself a great driver and still have much to learn but I'm here for the FUN!! (MOSTLY) Comradery & Competition is fun too. I look at racing like this...If I have the same equipment as the guys who finish on the podium all the time, then my CAR is equal to theirs. Notice I said my CAR, not me. I've seen Dan, Eric and Neal do shit that blows my mind. I try to keep up and know my CAR can do it because it's the same as theirs but my brain say's NO. Now every year I have to keep spending more and more to keep up. Wheels, shifter and whatnot. Where's it all end??? I keep falling further behind and they keep getting further ahead. I know it's me, the loose nut behind the wheel but if you keep getting further ahead by spending more on the newest gadget then what's the point in trying? This class is suppose to be about DRIVER ABILITY not spend-ability. You know as well as I, every edge you have that someone else doesn't, puts them at a disadvantage no matter how small! If a short shifter gives you .0500 sec faster shift and you shift 8 times a lap, a 20 lap race gives you an 8 second advantage. This is a typical lap in a 40 min sprint race at Autobahn Country Club. Now tell me what racer is willing to give up 8 seconds?? You've just won the race, now take 8 seconds off. Are you still on the podium?

How many people in this class are in my shoes??? I'd say 2/3 to 3/4 of the class.

1 Wheels......................NO

2 Short Shifter..............NO

3 Bumper Shock..........NO Is it safer to weld them, esp in a collision? If someone wants to put foam in the back for safety, do you think we need to weld up the bumper shock? If allowed, do they get welded extended or compressed is there an aero advantage? Can you gut them then weld them. There is a weight advantage when gutted, about 2 1/2 lbs per shock. We're not allowed to cut weight in the bumper why should we be allowed to in the bumper shock?

4 Dyno...It's good as is.

5 Crank Scraper..........NO, at this time.

6 Spare Tire Well Foam....Yes, if it makes it safer but needs to be fire resistant and removable.

7 Coil Overs.........Hell NO!

8 Fix the wording on the rules I mentioned in previous post.
Ken Frey #3 944-Spec MW Region

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Last Edit: 8 years, 11 months ago by RacerX.
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Re: Rule Change Requests for 2016 8 years, 11 months ago #20152

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You know guys at some point your going to have to say yes to somethings. We are talking about 30 plus year ( in some case ) old cars. You can't just keep reusing old parts and expect them to last forever. These cars are so low tech it's laughable. I keep hearing rule creep but it looks as if things haven't changed since the mid 80s for this class. I just started spec 944 this year and I have to be honest this thread makes me want to sell my car and race somewhere else. If people won't budge on a $90 shifter there's no hope. I spend $90 in fuel getting to the track.....

Re: Rule Change Requests for 2016 8 years, 11 months ago #20153

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Maybe you picked the wrong class of you were looking for change.

I would agree to a spec shifter as long as it is clearly defined with source and part number.

No on everythong else is my vote. Hows that for compromise?
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Re: Rule Change Requests for 2016 8 years, 11 months ago #20154

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I'll chine in with my thoughts. I requested the three piece crossmember last year and was shot down for reliability issues. I've bought a car with a broken crossmember and I bent the one in my car this year, so these things will fail regardless of one piece of multi-piece. There is zero performance gain and an insignificant wieght difference so we should allow them for serviceability.. Currently, you are out of luck if you have a bearing, pickup tube or oil pan problem. With a three piece crossmember, you'll be back in action for the next race.

I'd also vote for the short shifter. The rear OEM shifter components are unattainable. I've never seen a car with good parts. You should allow the aftermarket prevail in this case and supply new parts.'the only other option is a jury rigged solution that doesn't last. You allow turbo valve springs for a similar reason.

Re: Rule Change Requests for 2016 8 years, 11 months ago #20155

  • Manuel_M
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Im not sure if its been covered, but this will fix the slope issue at the shifter.

I would like to outlaw lsd's, I dont have one and they are too expensive and not in spirit of the low cost class just kidding......
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Re: Rule Change Requests for 2016 8 years, 11 months ago #20156

rd7839 wrote:
I disagree, the worst part of racing a 944 is when you crash into your buddy!!


Wow, snap spin - did the guy up front shift into 1st?
Is there some hidden meaning here?
Eric Kuhns

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2007, & 2008 National Champion
2011, 2012 2nd
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