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Oil Pressure & Pan Baffle Q's 12 years, 7 months ago #13013

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Hi All. I've a couple questions about the OPRV, Oil Pressure, & the Lindsey Racing oil pan baffle kit.

1. What does the oil pressure "act like" when the OPRV begins to fail? I've had some issues with oil pressure right off the get-go - cold pressure starts at 2 bar - really weird. Once the car is warm, then the oil pressure is more normal: 4-5 bar under load, 3 bar at idle. I pulled the OPRV and it seems to function normally / look O.K. The oil pressure sender is new, but I suppose its possible that it is defective.

2. Do you have to hold the oil pan baffle's trap door back to fully drain? I may have neglected to shove back the trap door when draining the oil after my break-in

I am using a 951 oil filter console to allow for an oil cooler - is it possible that this is caused by a different valving on the OPRV for N/A vs Turbo cars? Doing research now...
- Greg - #518

'88 944 Spec Racer - Race Ready! (finally)
Last Edit: 12 years, 7 months ago by GT944.

Re: Oil Pressure & Pan Baffle Q's 12 years, 7 months ago #13017

What year is the engine? Does it have the early style OPRV (multiple pieces, 3 I think) or the later style?

The turbo housing should have nothing to do with it but the early OPRVs are prone to problems. Porsche has a retrofit 1 piece early design that should be installed to replace the 3 piece. If it is a late car, ignore all of this.

I've never thought about the trap door when changing oil so I guess I'm in the same boat if it is trapping contaminants

Re: Oil Pressure & Pan Baffle Q's 12 years, 7 months ago #13018

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The engine is an '88 and I'm running a 944 Turbo oil filter console (for oil cooler) It has a late style OPRV (I think. It doesn't look like a three piece valve, but I can't be sure.) I want to say it is a late style, but I can't say for sure. Thinking that it is the OPRV from the donor '88 motor I rebuilt. Going to try one of the "spares" after I swap o-rings.

Guess I'll have to see if anything else comes out after I flip the oil pan baffle open next oil change. Kind of embarrassed that I didn't think of it at the time. I'm guessing that it doesn't matter.

Something that I'm thinking about also - does the oil pan baffle affect oil level readings on the dipstick (like with doing an oil change)?? Does anyone think that the oil might get "trapped" on one side or another if you're not driving around??
- Greg - #518

'88 944 Spec Racer - Race Ready! (finally)

Re: Oil Pressure & Pan Baffle Q's 12 years, 7 months ago #13026

If it is an '88, you have the late style OPRV. They are longer than the early style and aren't known for issues as long as the housing is properly aligned.

Here's something I saved from a while back. Not sure of the source:

Preparation
Identify the type of oil pressure relief valve on your car. There are four versions of the valve that Porsche has used. Two are obsoleted by two newer versions, so there are in fact only two versions that you need to be aware of.
model year model(s) qualifier version
1982-86 924S, 944, 944 Turbo all A
1987 924S up to engine no.
43 H 01919 - manual
43 H 60384 - automatic A
1987 924S from engine no.
43 H 01920 - manual
43 H 60385 - automatic B
1987 944, 944S, 944 Turbo- all B
1988-forward 924S, 944, 944S, 944 Turbo, 944S2 all B
Version A
In original production from 1982 - 86, a three-piece spring and piston oil pressure relief valve was used. In 1987, a one-piece version was introduced as a retrofit to early production cars. There does not seem to be any service bulletin which suggest the retrofit is recommended except where the original relief valve is not operating properly.
The following part numbers are relevant to servicing early production cars:
part number
valve 944.107.035.11
o-ring 944.107.935.11
seal ring N.043.815.3
alignment tool 9215 000.721.921.50
Version B
Porsche began producing model year 1987 engines in July '86. These engines received a new type of one-piece oil pressure relief valve. Unfortunately, in engines produced between July and October, the relief valve was not anit-corrosion treated. Porsche recommends that when servicing these engines, the oil pressure relief valve be replaced with the corrected, anti-corrosion treated part.
The affected engines are as follows. The second column has the first engine numbers in production that received the Version B, untreated valve. The third column indicates the first engines that received the corrected, treated valves.
model engine number,
untreated valve engine number,
treated valve
924S/944 manual 43 H 01920 43 H 05373
924S/944 automatic 43 H 60385 43 H 61268
944S 42 H 00140 42 H 02847
944 Turbo 45 H 00086 45 H 01256
The following part numbers are relevant to servicing Version B relief valves:
part number
valve 944.107.035.01
o-ring 944.107.935.01
seal ring N.043.815.3
alignment tool 9262/1 000.721.926.21
Tool and Supplies
You'll need a 24 mm. open crowfoot socket to perform this procedure.
You'll also need the correct alignment tool described above. Some folks just use the oil pressure relief valve itself to do the alignment, but we recommend using the proper tool for better accuracy.
Parts
You'll need a kit with new style seals and a gasket for the housing ("console"). It costs roughly US$20.
Procedure
The job takes about 45 to 90 minutes, once you have the car safely jacked.
1. Remove plastic under-tray.
2. Remove two 8 mm. bolts (13 mm. head) from upper right sway bar mount and pull it down.
3. Remove oil pressure relief valve from oil cooler housing, using a 24 mm. socket.
4. Remove oil pressure sending unit and wires. 24 mm. crow's foot or wrench and 7 mm. wrench for one term. The other terminal pulls off.
5. Remove two 6 mm. bolts (10mm head) from heat shield mounted on oil cooler using 10 mm. socket, 1/4" drive with a 2" extension.
6. Remove four 8 mm. bolts (13 mm. head) from all sides of oil cooler housing. Remove oil cooler housing from engine with oil cooler inside.
7. Remove oil cooler from oil cooler housing. Clean with part cleaner. Must be free of particulates!
8. Remove old o-rings (eu! that's a touchy subject) from both sides of oil cooler and install new green Viton o-rings. Reinstall cooler into clean (must be clean) housing after applying lube to o-rings.
9. At opposite end of cooler install black o-ring rubber spacer (with grease) and reinstall cooler to block. Hold in place while reinstalling 8mm bolts (13mm head). Do not tighten all the way! Just barely snug down so the cooler can be moved from side to side.
10. Install the alignment tool into the oil pressure relief valve's bore in the cooler housing. Tighten it snuggly into the engine block, aligning the housing with the block.
11. Now tighten down the four 8 mm. (13 mm. head) bolts.
12. Remove the alignment tool, install the oil pressure relief valve with a new o-ring and seal ring.
13. Now reinstall heat shield, oil pressure sender and sway bar mount.
14. Change oil, filter and flush coolant.
15. Bleed cooling system using tall cut off funnel that fits snugly in res. and loosen 12 mm. head bleeder at top of coolant neck, pore fresh coolant into funnel untill a bubbles are gone from bleeder valve and tighten.
16. Start your engines!

Re: Oil Pressure & Pan Baffle Q's 12 years, 6 months ago #13062

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Thank you for all the info! We swapped to another OPRV that we had - oil pressure runs right up on engine start. I'll reseal the one out of this motor and keep it around, just in case. I'm glad that it was such a simple fix

Once again, it's good to have spare parts!
- Greg - #518

'88 944 Spec Racer - Race Ready! (finally)
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